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One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

It happened to me too. You show them a glimpse of what your doing then suddenly they are better than you and harassed you. This is not allowed at all. Report them to your health department and they will come and investigate whats going on at your hospital, if your department allow this stupidity to happen.

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

It happened to me too. You show them a glimpse of what your doing then suddenly they are better than you and harassed you. This is not allowed at all. Report them to your health department and they will come and investigate whats going on at your hospital, if your department allow this stupidity to happen.

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

Well that does not happen in lab I worked at for nearly 30 years. I know local Kaiser hospitals in my area hire MLT's to do the urine dipping but not sure about microscopic part. 

My lab's IS department screens all new tech hires and goes over their clearance capabilities with each departments' supervisor. Good luck fixing your issue.

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

I am a former physician office laboratory lab directer.  According to CLIA dipsticks are waived tests that can be reported out by anyone trained to do them.  There are specific guidelines for documentation of training. They are NOT allowed to perform microscopics as those are non-waived.  Anyone can perform and report out any type of kit test with a CLIA "Certificate of Waiver".

Our profession needs to educate ourselves about CLIA personnel requirements.  We may not agree with them but they are the law of the land.

I have attached two documents which may be helpful about the types of CLIA certificates and assessing competency.  What disturbs me is that after training annual competency assessment is not required of waived tests.

Terry

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

In California, phlebotomists are not allowed to report lab results. CLIA allows it, but if the state is more strict than CLIA then you must follow state regs. Also, even in states that allow phlebs to report lab results, the lab director may not allow it and in that case you'd have to follow your internal policies approved by the lab director.

I am a former physician office laboratory lab directer.  According to CLIA dipsticks are waived tests that can be reported out by anyone trained to do them.  There are specific guidelines for documentation of training. They are NOT allowed to perform microscopics as those are non-waived.  Anyone can perform and report out any type of kit test with a CLIA "Certificate of Waiver".

Our profession needs to educate ourselves about CLIA personnel requirements.  We may not agree with them but they are the law of the land.

I have attached two documents which may be helpful about the types of CLIA certificates and assessing competency.  What disturbs me is that after training annual competency assessment is not required of waived tests.

Terry

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

At THE NAIROBI HOSPITAL,the phlebotomists are not even employed,so you find the LABORATORY TECHNOLOGISTS are the ones who do the phlebotomy services.

There is no case of Phlebotomists reporting the results.

In California, phlebotomists are not allowed to report lab results. CLIA allows it, but if the state is more strict than CLIA then you must follow state regs. Also, even in states that allow phlebs to report lab results, the lab director may not allow it and in that case you'd have to follow your internal policies approved by the lab director.

I am a former physician office laboratory lab directer.  According to CLIA dipsticks are waived tests that can be reported out by anyone trained to do them.  There are specific guidelines for documentation of training. They are NOT allowed to perform microscopics as those are non-waived.  Anyone can perform and report out any type of kit test with a CLIA "Certificate of Waiver".

Our profession needs to educate ourselves about CLIA personnel requirements.  We may not agree with them but they are the law of the land.

I have attached two documents which may be helpful about the types of CLIA certificates and assessing competency.  What disturbs me is that after training annual competency assessment is not required of waived tests.

Terry

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

At THE NAIROBI HOSPITAL,the phlebotomists are not even employed,so you find the LABORATORY TECHNOLOGISTS are the ones who do the phlebotomy services.

There is no case of Phlebotomists reporting the results.

In California, phlebotomists are not allowed to report lab results. CLIA allows it, but if the state is more strict than CLIA then you must follow state regs. Also, even in states that allow phlebs to report lab results, the lab director may not allow it and in that case you'd have to follow your internal policies approved by the lab director.

I am a former physician office laboratory lab directer.  According to CLIA dipsticks are waived tests that can be reported out by anyone trained to do them.  There are specific guidelines for documentation of training. They are NOT allowed to perform microscopics as those are non-waived.  Anyone can perform and report out any type of kit test with a CLIA "Certificate of Waiver".

Our profession needs to educate ourselves about CLIA personnel requirements.  We may not agree with them but they are the law of the land.

I have attached two documents which may be helpful about the types of CLIA certificates and assessing competency.  What disturbs me is that after training annual competency assessment is not required of waived tests.

Terry

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

In California, phlebotomists are not allowed to report lab results. CLIA allows it, but if the state is more strict than CLIA then you must follow state regs. Also, even in states that allow phlebs to report lab results, the lab director may not allow it and in that case you'd have to follow your internal policies approved by the lab director.

I am a former physician office laboratory lab directer.  According to CLIA dipsticks are waived tests that can be reported out by anyone trained to do them.  There are specific guidelines for documentation of training. They are NOT allowed to perform microscopics as those are non-waived.  Anyone can perform and report out any type of kit test with a CLIA "Certificate of Waiver".

Our profession needs to educate ourselves about CLIA personnel requirements.  We may not agree with them but they are the law of the land.

I have attached two documents which may be helpful about the types of CLIA certificates and assessing competency.  What disturbs me is that after training annual competency assessment is not required of waived tests.

Terry

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

I am a former physician office laboratory lab directer.  According to CLIA dipsticks are waived tests that can be reported out by anyone trained to do them.  There are specific guidelines for documentation of training. They are NOT allowed to perform microscopics as those are non-waived.  Anyone can perform and report out any type of kit test with a CLIA "Certificate of Waiver".

Our profession needs to educate ourselves about CLIA personnel requirements.  We may not agree with them but they are the law of the land.

I have attached two documents which may be helpful about the types of CLIA certificates and assessing competency.  What disturbs me is that after training annual competency assessment is not required of waived tests.

Terry

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?

One day I was asked to train a phleb on urinalysis and I figured I was just training them to pour up the urines and dipstick them because I know they are not able to release results since they are not a MLT or MT. However yesterday I was looking at a patients past urinalysis results to compare them to the current and I noticed a phleb had resulted them. Not only had they resulted them but they had resulted the specific gravity as "Refractometer" instead of a number. I have also noticed Lab Assistants have been releasing results and they are not qualified either. I don't see how this is allowed. Overall, I feel like I went to school for 4 years to become a MT for no reason because evidently people with no experience in Hematology and Urinalysis are able result patients as well. 

Is this really allowable?