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  • 1.  Creating A Safe Place To Learn

    Posted 07-14-2024 12:24
    I have been a traveler my whole career. I have held a couple of full time positions. I want to work in conjunction with a lab that actively wants to train students. I want to train students in our profession on the job in the hospital. My training with techs has been violatile in about 75% of the hospitals I have worked for. I have seen many techs cry and tell me they feel so stupid for simple human error. My goal has been to learn as many analyzers as I can and to know as much as I can about each department. I teach and train where I can. I want to find a hospital who wants to train the new techs and supports that endeavor. I want to train new techs. I want to create the safe environment that so many of coworkers and fellow students failed to have. Humans make mistakes, and humans make more mistakes if they are afraid and don't feel safe to ask questions. I am looking for my peeps here. I am just a tech who wants to see a new generation of techs be trained in a safe and welcoming place. We need better training with lab techs who want to train. Forcing techs to train who don't want to train leads to hostile environments.

    Jay


  • 2.  RE: Creating A Safe Place To Learn

    Posted 07-16-2024 13:37
    Jay,

    That is really good.  As an educator it can be hard to find people that really want to train/teach, even harder to find people who have the foundational skills to do so.
    I teach in an HTL program and learned histo OJT.  When I first began teaching ft I would pour over the texts making sure that I understood the theory.  Also, I would tell the students that I am still learning things every year.  Many of us have forgotten basic theory or never really understood it.  The first thing is to realize that theory and practice are usually different, and what lab professionals do is really applied.  Create a safe space for errors, meaning that make sure they are "teachable moments", not just an error.  When this happens, errors are reduced and competencies increase.  
    I know that teaching and training are different, so when you go to a new contract, have your own training workflow that you have created in hand.  This can help to standarize the training for you and one of your sites will ask you about it.

    I have worked with people who do not want to train, and it is very bothersome.  It hurts everyone involoved.

    Good luck.  


     

    Sincerely,

     

    Toysha N, Mayer DHSc, MBA, HT(ASCP)

    Asst. Professor/Assoc. Program Director

    HTL Program

    MD Anderson School of Health Professions

    832-710-1837

     

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  • 3.  RE: Creating A Safe Place To Learn

    Posted 07-25-2024 15:04
    I agree that all techs need certification. However, continuing education needs to be made more affordable. Maintaining certification is extremely expensive. Most of what ASCP offers for courses are geared toward pathologist and not the 2 or 4 year tech. We need more inexpensive options geared toward what a MLT or MLS does on a day to day basis.





  • 4.  RE: Creating A Safe Place To Learn

    Posted 07-26-2024 10:27

    Good morning I agree with you. It would be nice to also not forget about the Phlebotomist as well. We are also in the labs and part of the team. We would like to be able to stay abreast of what is new and upcoming in the lab. 



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    Willanda Sodia Phlebotomist
    Houston TX
    (832)203-7817
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  • 5.  RE: Creating A Safe Place To Learn

    Posted 07-26-2024 15:34

    It's a valid concern that continuing education and maintaining certification can be costly and often not fully tailored to the needs of medical laboratory technicians (MLT) or medical laboratory scientists (MLS). While certification is crucial for maintaining standards and ensuring that professionals stay updated with the latest developments, it's important to balance this with accessibility and relevance to the specific roles.



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    Muhammad Ismail Khan Supervisor/Lead Med Lab Scientist/MedTechnologist
    Rawalpindi
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  • 6.  RE: Creating A Safe Place To Learn

    Posted 07-27-2024 01:12

    In Tennessee we are also required to have 24hours of continuing education every 2years.  Our lab uses American Proficiency Institute for our proficiency testing.  API offers free CME every year.  Through API I am able to be compliant with ASCP and the State for my licensing and credentialing. 



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    David Lusk
    Knoxville TN

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  • 7.  RE: Creating A Safe Place To Learn

    Posted 07-27-2024 07:47

    👍 to all. Here's what I have witnessed. Theory and didactics are all in school and to be witnessed in application during rotations. Theory and didactics are more used behind the scenes during research or when working on some kind of policy. A big reason actual working environments seem so far from theory and didactics is because the theories and didactics used in research has already generated results that has been used to craft regulations, guidelines, policies, etc... all the way from government to facility level, which are then used to regulate how things are done, which standardizes the work done.

    Training from facility to facility is different not only because of different instruments, but also due to the people, workflow, and local government and facilty specific regulations, guidelines, policies, etc... 

    Standardizing training requires a whole separate different level on how to train. This would be beyond the regular teaching a tech or student tech the skills of how run tests and identify problem results. This is a tech teaching a 2nd tech the skills of how to teach a 3rd tech, especially if that 3rd tech is a fresh graduate.

    The most difficult thing about learning is that learning comes more from failure than success, and the medical space would be one of the worst if not already the worst place for failure. It takes years of research, testing, failure, and countless lives before that one major revolutionary breakthrough success. And that is even when research is under the most favorable and supportive of circumstances.

    Don't get me wrong. That wasn't meant to be cold water. I am posting because I want what is good for techs, patients, etc... It would be great all-around if training can be done more efficiently w/o as much confusion. I actually would like to see how such training could and would come together. Shall this post be kept going?



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    Diana Au
    Brooklyn NY
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  • 8.  RE: Creating A Safe Place To Learn

    Posted 07-27-2024 11:42

    I want to see people who want to train students and new techs. A standard learning system would be difficult to create and not impossible. There are standards for learning and standards that each lab has to follow. However, finding techs to train new employees and students with grace and patience has been lacking from my experience. 



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    Jay Botinelly Technologist/Scientist, non-supervisor (CT,MLS,MT)
    Littleton CO
    (303)794-5958
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